APA will size up fire tower removal Thursday
By MIKE LYNCH, Enterprise Outdoors WriterRAY BROOK - Proposals to remove fire towers on Hurricane and St. Regis mountains have received strong public opposition, and now the state Adirondack Park Agency will have an opportunity to weigh in on the plan at its meeting Thursday.
The state Department of Environmental Conservation says it is proposing to remove the fire towers in order to comply with the State Land Master Plan. The St. Regis tower is located in the St. Regis Canoe Area, and the other is located in the Hurricane Mountain Primitive Area. Both areas are required to be managed as wilderness, which doesn't allow most man-made structures, including fire towers.
In an effort to save the structures, the Adirondack Park Local Government Review Board requested that the APA classify the land under and around the fire towers as historic, which would require an amendment to the SLMP.
"It is important to understand that both towers are also listed on the national and state registers of historic places," Rick Weber, APA assistant director of planning, wrote in a staff memo. "The determination of whether or not to remove the towers therefore must be evaluated not only according to the vision and direction established by the Master Plan but also according to ... the Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation Act pertaining to state agency activities affecting historic or cultural properties."
The two towers were identified for removal in the Adirondack Park Fire Tower Study completed by the DEC this winter. Neither tower is currently being used by the public, and both are in disrepair. The study also called for 22 other fire towers in the Park to remain.
Both fire towers received strong support during public hearings held in Paul Smiths and Keene Valley, although environmental advocacy organizations have called for them to be removed.
"Staff believe it is important to consider that while on the one hand, retention of the two towers at the existing summit locations could maximize the protection of cultural resources, it would do so to the detriment of wilderness resources that are directed to be protected and restored to the maximum extent possible under the State Land Master Plan," Weber wrote. "Retention of the fire towers would have certain environmental, social and economic benefits and impacts that have been discussed in the comment record to this point. On the other hand, the removal of these two towers and the retention of 22 other towers in wild forest and private land areas may also be viewed as a balanced approach that minimizes adverse impacts to both the resources and the wilderness resources of the Park."
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Contact Mike Lynch at (518) 891-2600 ext. 28 or mlynch@adirondackdailyenteprise.com.
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snakepliskin
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04-13-10 7:16 PM
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Tony, You learned your lesson on the Old Mountain Road, save some face this time and agree to let the towers stay.
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billstarr
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04-13-10 12:23 PM
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The inherent problem with the whole process with making decisions in the Adirondacks was pointed out in the DEC hearing in Keene Valley when the DEC representative said that until they are told otherwise the SLMP shall be their sole guidance. With practicing such tunnel vision it is impossible to realize that some decisions may be in direct conflict with other state and Federal laws. In the case of the two fire towers both the state and federal historic preservation laws are quite clear in that ALL possible alternatives must first be exhausted before considering removal of the fire towers. Other fire towers, in worse shape, have been fully restored therefore to say that the Hurricane and St Regis fire towers are dilapidated is short sighted and irresponsible.
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Goodwin
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04-12-10 5:43 PM
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Yes, I have read the SLMP. The operative phrase is "SHOULD the road ever be closed...." and I see no indication that any agency is working to force the closure.
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snakepliskin
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04-12-10 5:07 PM
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Goodwin, you ever read the slmp? Closing the road is in there!
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Goodwin
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04-12-10 11:39 AM
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The Wells Hill/Jay Mt. Road has only recently been made more passable; but even before this work the DEC had no intention of closing it off. The reclassification of Hurricane Mt. Primitive Area to Wilderness will not cause this road to be closed. There are enough objections out there as it is, don't make speculate on actions that won't happen.
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Wilford
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04-11-10 4:11 PM
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The moment the land is reclassified from Primitive to Wilderness, the Wells Hill road from Jay to Lewis will be blocked to vehicular traffic. Just watch, you'll see. This will effectively cut off a huge area to big game hunters. The road is actively maintained by two townships so gear up for another law suit against the DEC and APA. I have no opposition toward a hiking trail from Hurricane to the Jay Range and beyond, but don't try closing this road. There will be a fight!
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poolman137
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04-10-10 6:12 PM
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That should be D.A.M.N.
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poolman137
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04-10-10 6:12 PM
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Leave the*****things you control freaks!!!!!! Get a real life and listen to what "the people" want more than your sidekicks.......
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LoveTheCold
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04-10-10 3:43 PM
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griz The save tax doller survey.:)
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iceman
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04-10-10 3:26 PM
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Those things must be historical landmark status by now. Frankly, I really don't give a hoot about those towers. I do care about the incredible waste of money used contemplating the pros and cons of them. A true display of government fat. Eliminate the APA. It is redundant anyway.
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grizzlyadam
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04-10-10 12:11 PM
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What survey is that LoveTheCold?
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grizzlyadam
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04-10-10 12:10 PM
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Walker, I am with you in the fact that a tower will not ruin a "wilderness experience", whatever that means. But when you have a system of classifying land that includes a wilderness category that isn't supposed to have man-made structure, just like the federal wilderness system, a tower doesn't belong. If we keep these towers, just don't classify the land as wilderness. If its wilderness, no tower If there is a tower, they make it wild forest or primitive. That was easy.
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LoveTheCold
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04-10-10 12:09 PM
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"APA will size up fire tower removal Thursday" survay says APA be gone, does size up mean a another study? bums let all the hikers carry down 5lbs at a time. or Get a helicopter for a day and be done with it...
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Walker
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04-10-10 10:23 AM
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As a card-carrying leftist greenie-pinko tree hugger, let me just say that I completely fail to understand how anyone can say that their experience of Wilderness was ruined by seeing a firetower on a mountain top. Maybe I'm missing something...
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ADKrealist
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04-10-10 9:00 AM
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I like the Hurricane tower
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iceman
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04-10-10 6:16 AM
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Leave the tower Remove the APA
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