Report shows residents leaving North Country, state
By CHRIS KNIGHT, Enterprise Senior Staff WriterA new report shows Essex and Franklin counties, along with the rest of the state, have seen a significant loss of residents to other states over the past eight years.
The Empire Center for New York State Policy studied population data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the Internal Revenue Service and found the state experienced the nation's largest net loss of residents to other states between 2000 and 2008 - 1.5 million residents or about 8 percent of the state's population.
Essex County saw a net exodus of 529 residents or 1.4 percent of its population over the same eight-year period. Franklin County experienced a loss of 836 residents or 1.6 percent of its population.
"The Empire State is being drained of an invaluable resource - people," the report says. "A continuation of the domestic migration trends highlighted here will translate into slower economic growth and diminishing political influence in the future."
The report, titled "Empire State Exodus," found the annual net loss of New York residents to other states ranged from a high of nearly 250,000 people in 2005 to a low of 126,000 last year. Nearly 60 percent of those leaving the state moved to southern states while another 30 percent moved to New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Connecticut.
The report also found residents moving out of New York had average incomes 13 percent higher than those moving into the state.
New York's state and local tax burden is blamed for much of the statewide loss in population. In upstate New York, a lack of new economic opportunities and high housing taxes were listed as contributing factors.
"This much is clear," the report concludes, "with New York now facing the most serious fiscal and economic crisis in its modern history, government policies should be aimed at slowing down and ultimately reversing the state's population drain."
In addition to Essex and Franklin counties, several other North Country counties experienced an exodus of residents between 2000 and 2008. Hamilton County lost 114 residents or 2.1 percent of its population. St. Lawrence County experienced a loss of 3,284 residents or 2.9 percent of its population. Jefferson County lost 7,553 residents or 6.8 percent.
A handful of counties in the region saw population gains. Clinton County experienced a net increase of 1,197 residents or 1.5 percent of its population. Warren County saw a net migration of 2,629 new residents or 4.1 percent. Saratoga County experienced one of the strongest gains in the state - an influx of 9,892 residents or 4.9 percent.
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Contact Chris Knight at 891-2600 ext. 24 or cknight@adirondackdailyenterprise.com.
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adkmama
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11-07-09 7:38 PM
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AdirondackCitizen for governor!
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adkmama
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11-07-09 7:37 PM
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AdirondackCitizen for governor!
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Spooner
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11-07-09 7:40 AM
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"...on the job training that doesn't cost the state anything." Yeah, right. New rolling jail cells. Paid drivers. Paid guards. Insurance. Plus increasing the opportunity for escape and harm to the general public.
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DblA31
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11-06-09 8:17 PM
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Spooner stop being a drama queen. Prisoners aren't taking anyone's job. They'll be doing work that non-profits don't have the money to pay anyone for. It's work that would go undone or be spread around an already overworked staff. This way the non-profits benefit and prisoners get on the job training that doesn't cost the state anything. Everyone wins. Except you apparently.
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FishCric
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11-06-09 7:57 PM
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AdirondackCitizen boot them all vote
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Woodchuck
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11-06-09 7:49 PM
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Adk Citizen - You truly get it....great post.
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Woodchuck
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11-06-09 7:44 PM
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Hey - tax us a little more, Albany! Idiots.
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Spooner
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11-06-09 7:32 PM
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I agree there, poolman...most assuredly a political issue. Too much government regulation and taxation. Too many entitlement programs. OH, and the VOTERS of NY just agreed to make it worse by allowing prisoners to do work for non profits usually done for fee. How's THAT for stupid, can't fix that.
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phahn50
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11-06-09 5:24 PM
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Although looking at that report, its Western NY that is worst off. Hudson Valley to NYC is doing fine. Immigrants are moving to NY City.
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poolman137
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11-06-09 5:23 PM
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THIS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM!!!!!!!! IT IS BECAUSE OF THE NEGLIGENCE FROM THE SPENDING THAT HAS CAUSED THIS.... TOO MANY PEOPLE TAKING OUR MONEY FOR THIS AND THAT! TOO MANY COMMITTEES FORMED FOR THIS AND THAT... TO MUCH GOVERNMENT PERIOD!! READY FOR A TAX REVOLT???
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phahn50
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11-06-09 5:22 PM
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manufacturing is down in the USA. Upstate NY was a manufacturing center but isnt anymore. People leave to look for work elsewhere. Same thing happens in the rest of the rust belt.
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adk777
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11-06-09 3:07 PM
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This is not a political issue/problem, just too many other better places to work and live. Period.
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Spooner
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11-06-09 3:05 PM
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Since the appointment of Richard Ravitch as Lt Gov, the Dems have had a majority in the Senate. Still they do nothing to alleviate the worsening economy. They even refuse to sit in on the current special session to discuss the current budget crisis.
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PNorthElba
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11-06-09 12:44 PM
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Dems had control for almost a year now. But, not in the Senate where the majority does not rule.
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Spooner
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11-06-09 12:36 PM
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"Well, it takes time to undue severe damage." The dems have had control for almost a year now. With a 32 Billion infusion from the feds one would think we'd be home free. However, we are still looking at a 2+ billion shortfall this year. How long before we see some improvement? Take all the time you need, just tell me now, how long will it take?
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PNorthElba
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11-06-09 12:01 PM
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HappyAdk, did you see Stewart's spoof of Beck. Funniest thing I've ever seen.
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contrary1
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11-06-09 11:48 AM
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Until recently, many enviro groups and right wing developers worked together for a common cause. Right wingers like Derek Champagne bragged about how the pitiful poor and criminal element of the North Country would find it increasingly difficult to live in the area, while an alphabet soup of enviros worked to eliminate the economic opportunities of the working class as they spent millions of tax dollars buying vacant land. This was a bi-partisan attack on long time residents, for the sake of real estate profits for the extreme right, and a forever wild wilderness park for the enviro left. A quid pro quo. Since Conservative/GOP'ers have controlled the area politically for generations, it makes sense that they would blame the woes of the adks on Democrats. The only reason Hoffman received so many votes, was due to the abbreviated race. By swiftboating Dede the entire time, they hid his ignorance right up until the last minute. Another week of enlightenment and he would have been toast.
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phahn50
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11-06-09 11:45 AM
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Obviously we need to encourage more foreign immigrants to settle in NY to replace people leaving.
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adkerforever
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11-06-09 11:24 AM
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For those people who want to blame this on environmental policies/amount of Forest Preserve/DEC or APA...check the numbers. We may be losing residents inside the Blue Line, but not at the percentages outside the Park. Jefferson Cty lost almost 7%, while Essex/Franklin were less than 2%. No Forest Preserve or APA in Jefferson Cty. I'm a 5th generation resident. Since finishing high school I've lived all over the country doing different things and have CHOSEN to return and live here permanently...recognizing that I needed to sacrifice and do what it takes to make a living here...b/c I can't imagine living anywhere else.
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grizzlyadam
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11-06-09 11:23 AM
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Well designer, if you put it that way, duh
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designer5
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11-06-09 11:20 AM
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Conservatism can be liken to frugality. Very few conservatives would spend their lifetime income, along with their children's and grandchildren's lifetime incomes, on empty promises and programs that will cripple the entire economy.
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grizzlyadam
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11-06-09 11:00 AM
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Spooner's argument is exactly what I mean. The democrats are on total control now, so they should have fixed everything the Republicans screwed up by now. Well, it takes time to undue severe damage.
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grizzlyadam
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11-06-09 10:54 AM
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We do NOT need to be more conservative. Backwards is not the way forward.
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grizzlyadam
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11-06-09 10:52 AM
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I don't find my taxes are too much. Obviously I'd rather pay less, but what my family pays is not too burdensome. We have enough left over to live a modestly comfortable life. I have lived in states with less tax burden, but I think I get more for my money in NY. Try living in Alaska or Wyoming. Alaska actual paid me! I paid less tax there, but the roads were terrible, the schools were worse and police were few and far between. Not to say NY doesn't waste lots of money and there is always room for improvement. I a middle income, but what I pay in taxes right now would never drive me out of NY.
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Spooner
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11-06-09 10:46 AM
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"Republicans do have a way of screwing things up in a bad way, loosing control and then blaming the Democrats for the problems."......and now the democrats are totally in control, continueing the "screw it up" tradition and they are blaming everything on the Republicans. The latest 23rd district election should have shown you they are all the same. We need to get back to a more conservative way of thinking and acting, and this must include both Democrats AND Republicans.
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