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New York Independence Party courts Scozzafava
POSTED: November 5, 2009
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ALBANY - New York's Independence Party is courting the one-time Republican candidate in the 23rd Congressional District as she completes her state Assembly term.
Independence Chairman Frank MacKay says he will invite Dierdre Scozzafava, a moderate Republican, to carry his party as her main political affiliation.
She suspended her congressional campaign as it was overtaken by Conservative Doug Hoffman. He lost Tuesday to Democrat Bill Owens in the race to represent northern New York.
MacKay tells The Associated Press that Scozzafava appears to be a true independent. She won re-election last year with the Republican, Conservative, Independence and Working Families lines.
Scozzafava didn't immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday.
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Outlaw63446
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11-06-09 7:32 AM
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Dede is done. No one will vote for a traitor, no matter what party label they put on her. Two facts are indisputable - If the ballots had been corrected, Hoffman would LIKELY have won, and, If Hoffman had gotten the Republican endrosement at the beginning, he DEFINITELY would have won. I'm waiting to see what job Dede gets as the payout for the sellout.
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 10:04 PM
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(Part 2) The Watertown Times interviewed several people who were/are interested in her Assembly seat. It was assumed by many she would win the Congressional seat, and there would be a vacany. Some of those interviewed said they would not run against her or were reconsidering it since she is still in the assembly. I think this is testament to the support she has, which could carry her to victory as a third party candidate. This would provide more credibility to a third party movement, and embolden others to run as a third party candidates. One thing that has popped up in many blogs in the past few days is the desire for a third party. IPNY has flexed their muscles & became the 3rd largest party in NY, & probably will continue to do so. Now that the heated comments of the election are behind. I could keep debating this subject, but I don't think the Enterprise blog is the place as it would be off topic of any news stories published in the paper. Good night.
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 9:49 PM
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DW, the only place I find neolibertarianism and the Ind. Party of NY (IPNY) on the same page is in Wikipedia. And I don't know who applied that term to the party. Using Wiki as the reference point they also state: The Independence Party's platform is somewhat ambiguous. The party itself is designed to draw independent voters and allows nonaffiliated voters to vote in its primary elections, the only significant party in the state to do so. This could all be by design, offering an outlet for almost anyone to find some comfort with. I am am not picking on the GOP, but the IPNY philosophy may be to provide what they feel is truly a big tent. It is a party that may provide a political home for anyone feeling disenfranchised. Dede could fill this bill and at the same time provide IPNY with attention they couldn't buy. Regardless of what either of us think of Dede, she is immensely popular in her home district. To be continued.
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DW12983
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11-05-09 7:47 PM
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Buddy, you may be right. I have done further research and find conflicting information on the birth of the Independence Party. What seems to be certain fact is that the Party was founded in 1991. In 1992 they endorsed Perot. They profess a Neolibertarianism theology which was defined by Dale Franks. He states "When given a set of policy choices, The choice that maximizes personal liberty is the best choice. The policy choice that offers the least amount of necessary government intervention or regulation is the best choice. The policy choice that provides rational, market-based incentives is the best choice." These views are not the views of Spitzer, Perot or Dede.
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YouKnowImRight
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11-05-09 6:19 PM
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Bottom line is: We need a 3rd party. One with vision and brains. The current two are anachronistic and really not helping the average Joe.
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 4:42 PM
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DW, I don't know who the National Independence Party is. The Independence Party of Amereca was formed in 1997 by members of the IP of NY, and that's not the party Perot formed. He may have used the IP of NY ballot slot in '92, but it was not the party he formed. Perot did use the name Independence in some states and Reform in others and that organization was formed in 1995, in tiem for the '96 elections. Perot's party is not related to IP of NY, which came before IP America. I guess the only thing we agree on is that Perot's Reform Party is a different animal as I mentioned in my earlier post. Your earlier post stated that neolibertarianism was not the view of Perot, Spitzer or Dede. I was mearly pointing out the Perot and Spitzer were not members of the IP of NY, nor is Dede. That doesn't mean any of them are not welcome in the IP. As for Hoffman, that's yesterday's news.
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DW12983
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11-05-09 4:03 PM
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Buddy, stick to the talking points about the issue at hand. We are talking about the Independence Party and Dede not Hoffman. The Independence Party is the National Organization, like the DNC. The NY Party is on the same level below the National Party like the NYS Democratic Party. And yes, Perot was endorsed and ran on the National Independence Party. One in the same as today’s National Party. The party Perot founded was the Reform Party, a different Political Machine.
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 3:13 PM
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The Independence Party of New York (founded in 1991) is not the same Independence Party Perot formed. Since the name Independence was already in use in several states Perot's party became known as the Reform Party (founded in 1995). It does appear that Perot used the IP of NY line in 1992 to get on the ballot, but the IP of NY and the Reform Party are not connected. Eliot Spitzer ran on the Independence line as he was endorsed by the IP of NY as the candidate more in tune with the party philosophy. At the time of the IP endorsement of Dede the party must have felt she was the candidate most in line with the party, as the choice at the time was Dede or Owens. Unlike the Republican Party, I don't think one has to 100% ideologically pure to be a member of IP of NY. The IP of America was formed in 1997 by members of IP of NY
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 1:01 PM
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DW, you can put any spin you want on anything you want. You obviously are very good at it. Hoffman got beat, get over it. PS-Specter should win now that he is on the Club for Growth enemies list.
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grizzlyadam
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11-05-09 12:58 PM
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Its the conservatives who don't want to maximize personal liberty.
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grizzlyadam
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11-05-09 12:56 PM
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She seems like she favors personal liberty by allowing people to marry who they want.
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DW12983
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11-05-09 12:52 PM
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Buddy, their platform is fine except that when you look into their Neolibertarianism theology it becomes apparent that they are "playing with words". Libertarianism, as defined by Dale Franks states "When given a set of policy choices, The choice that maximizes personal liberty is the best choice. The policy choice that offers the least amount of necessary government intervention or regulation is the best choice. The policy choice that provides rational, market-based incentives is the best choice." These views are not the views of Spitzer, perot or Dede.
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AdkBuddy
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11-05-09 12:39 PM
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Before knocking the Independence Party, people should read their platform. You can find the information on the internet.
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FishCric
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11-05-09 11:55 AM
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acorn and her husband is a player also. she was off the "ballot" and still got a lot of votes, I find it hmmmm funny rino next! get a job
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DW12983
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11-05-09 11:36 AM
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Ah yes the Independence Party, the Party of Perot and Spitzer, wants another LIBERAL in their fold. Dede doesn't appear to have the backbone to show her own ideology in the Democratic Party. She and the likes of Jeffords, Specter and Snowe refused to admit that they are better suited in the spend and tax party.
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YouKnowImRight
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11-05-09 10:40 AM
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It'd be a wise move. The Republican Party in 23 is in an epic meltdown as evidenced by Mr. Maroun's whining in the Press Republican today about Janet Duprey. Had he been nominated by the Repugs, Owens would have received 90% of the vote.
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