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Owens, Scozzafava debate; Hoffman skips

By NATHAN BROWN, Enterprise Staff Writer
POSTED: October 29, 2009

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PLATTSBURGH - The two candidates for New York's 23rd District congressional seat who showed up at a debate at SUNY Plattsburgh Wednesday used their opening statements to define the differences between them.

Democratic and Working Families Party candidate Bill Owens said Republican and Independence candidate Dede Scozzafava favors the "failed Bush economic policies," which he blamed for causing the current recession and increasing the federal deficit. Scozzafava said she favors reducing government spending, regulation and taxes to allow the economy grow.

Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman did not attend the debate, a "glaring fact" moderator and North Country Public Radio Adirondack Bureau Chief Brian Mann called attention to in his introductory remarks. Mann said he had reached out to Hoffman's campaign repeatedly to get him to attend, and Hoffman was in Plattsburgh earlier Wednesday for campaign events. Mann said he spoke to Hoffman in person that afternoon, and Hoffman said he wasn't going to take part, not giving a reason. Hoffman held a "telephone town hall" at 7 p.m. Wednesday, sponsored by the state Right to Life Committee.

Scozzafava and Owens agreed on a number of things during the debate - both candidates are in favor of repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy which bars homosexuals from serving openly in the military. They also both opposed public financing of campaigns, saying people should have a right to contribute to candidates they support, even though Scozzafava, who has been outspent by her two opponents, said she has "definitely felt the impact of big money working against me." And they discussed job creation, as they have frequently throughout the race.

"My opponent and I have the same goal," Scozzafava said. "We want jobs."

The debate was sponsored by the Plattsburgh chapter of United University Professions, the SUNY Plattsburgh Student Association and the Plattsburgh-area League of Women Voters. Mann and SUNY Plattsburgh Student Association President Lindsay Lyons moderated, and both the moderators and members of the audience asked questions. Numerous local and national media outlets covered the debate.

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Hoffman absent

Seats were reserved in the first few rows for all three campaigns; the signs identifying the seats reserved for Hoffman were removed just before the debate started.

Another debate, sponsored by Syracuse's News10Now and planned for last Monday, was canceled when Hoffman's campaign said the day before that he would not be attending. Owens' campaign never had committed to this debate and also said they would not be able to attend. All three candidates have said they will attend a debate in Syracuse today, at WSYR Newschannel 9's studio. The debate will be posted on its Web site, www.9wsyr.com.

Scozzafava, who has been calling for more debates, said Wednesday she has accepted every forum invitation and decried the influence of groups from outside the district, which have been buying advertising for the candidates. She said she wished "we could all answer questions together, instead of being inundated with 30-second commercials that are spreading and telling lies."

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Distinctions

The candidates gave different answers to a question about Border Patrol checkpoints inside the U.S. and the now-tighter regulations to cross between the U.S. and Canada. People have needed passports to enter the U.S. from Canada since June 1, and Canada has responded with the same requirement to go there. Owens said he thought the regulations were appropriate for security reasons, and "we've adjusted to the relatively reasonable requirements."

Scozzafava said she thought the regulations had gone too far and risked interfering with cross-border ties and commerce, giving the example of fishermen who get hassled when fishing near the border.

"They're our neighbors," Scozzafava said of Canada. "They're our trading partners. They're our friends."

Owens didn't say whether he supported Gen. Stanley McChrystal's call for 44,000 more troops in Afghanistan, saying he would need "in-depth information I don't have access to right now." Scozzafava said more troops should be sent over if the commanders say they need them to carry out the mission, which hasn't changed.

"The president not being able to make a decision - this risks the lives of everyone there," Scozzafava said.

Owens said new technologies could help reduce the problem of manure runoff from dairy farms into bodies of water like Lake Champlain. Scozzafava said dairy farmers, who are struggling with milk prices that are less than half of their production costs, can't afford anything new.

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Contact Nathan Brown at 891-2600 ext. 26 or nbrown@adirondackdailyenterprise.com.

 
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FishCric
10-31-09 11:54 AM
And dede supports card check which is the first step to do away with democracy

designer5
10-30-09 11:35 PM
Hey, you folks have your democrat controlled legislature, and your democrat governor, all sitting around letting the people around crown point lose everything. I'm sure there will be a press conference soon, telling us how many jobs were "saved" by doing NOTHING!

grizzlyadam
10-30-09 10:22 AM
Hoffman = Palin in drag.

northcountrynell
10-30-09 10:18 AM
A Boozer, a looozer and a Snooozer....things are looking brighter already.... I think I'll stick with the everyman for himself concept and let these lunkheads have as little effect on my well being as possible. The three are such non candidates that ALL their media ads can only point the finger at what each has done wrong....Just what we need.....more finger pointing and whining in DC. Thank God they will mostly be ignored where ever they end up.

contrary1
10-30-09 9:01 AM
Dougie wouldn't stand face to face with the other 2 candidates, but found time to have breakfast with the extreme right wing Chamber of Commerce, 14 hours later? Instead of being forced to debate the other candidates, the Press Republican gave him plenty of time to ask Palin and friends how to respond, and a competition free article this morning. His reason for not endangering his race with a face to face debate? He had a scheduled conference call with his 'Right to Life' handlers. We have bridges falling into Lake Champlain, and Mr. Hoffman is concerned with dictating what others should do with their bodies, rather than debate the best way to deal with this economic tragedy. Hoffmans anti-choice/anti-gay partners, have distracted America for 30 years as investor class thieves stole our treasury with no repurcussions. It sounds like he's using a 1980 talking points handbook. Concerns of the crotch can't save Main Street...or replace a bridge.

ernest
10-30-09 6:18 AM
"at the convenience of the two left wingers." Really? Dougie Fresh was in P'Burgh that day. What was his excuse? Surely he could have found time to come in to spout the Faux news talking points.

FishCric
10-30-09 4:35 AM
do you guys/gals know some female dog from the UN is touring ny chicago ect to look for rights violations.

no more liberals. none.... god bless jefferson (thomas)

adirondackal
10-30-09 2:12 AM
Funny how they schedule these things at the convenience of the two left wingers.

designer5
10-29-09 11:45 PM
Only one of the three candidates is a NY legislator. Scozzafava. Starting tomorrow, she is going to have to explain WHY the NY legislature felt they had a right to take $20 billion dollars from the road and bridge trust fund (it's in the hole now) and spent it on other items approved by the legislature of NY.

ernest
10-29-09 9:36 PM
The GOP used to have many seats in New York and New England; now they've lost all of New England and all but three (out of 29) in New York State. If they celebrate because they retain one of their three seats in a special election next Tuesday... I'd say they need better things to celebrate.

FishCric
10-29-09 7:59 PM
Hoffman, we need all new blood in there. just to much corruption in the old gaurd.

vote

ernest
10-29-09 7:46 PM
This is a Republican district. Its core hasn't gone for a Democrat for the House since 1850. Even if Owens manages to win, he'll be out a year from now when he faces only one Republican. The only downside is that Scozzafava is not bad for a Republican. Maybe she would have switched parties after she got elected. Other than that, I think too much is being made of this race. With one beautifully placed nomination, Obama threw a solidly GOP stronghold into an intraparty bloodletting which split the teabaggers further from the traditional GOP moderates.

contrary1
10-29-09 2:59 PM
When it looked like Clinton was going to win in '92, Ross Perot created a third party. This allowed the GOP to lose an election they would have lost anyways, but it gave them talking points that prevented him from being able to claim a mandate from the people. Hoffman is doing the same thing. The GOP juggernaut has squandered its stronghold in the North, so they're taking a play out of the Perot handbook rather than risk another straight up loss. This looks like a ploy, designed to eliminate any claims of a North Country mandate by Democrats. In the end, a foot in the door is a foot in the door. Since we lost so many upstate residents during the GOP years, it isn't like the 23rd district will be around in 2013 anyways. Do you want Owens, or Murphy? The other 2 are fighting for spoiler status, just like Perot did in '93.

AdkBuddy
10-29-09 1:37 PM
Voddov, I agree with you, and I was referring to Freedom Fighters comment that nothing says the peasants are revolting better than a third party. FF is a Hoffman supporter, and I was being sarcastic that Hoffman (third party candidate) is not going to be a leader of the peasants. In fact, if the Club for Growth, Hoffman's sugar daddy, got their way, the peasants will really be hurting. Then you get a real revolt, perhaps anarchy.

Voddov
10-29-09 1:28 PM
Hey ADKBuddy,

Doug Hoffman may be a multi millionaire, but he has worked for everything he has, which is more than I can say for a lot of people.

AntiLib
10-29-09 12:25 PM
What did these two empty suits debate about?

They are both on the "left' of every issue out there. It's just a matter of degree.

Yeah, just who is furthest left.

contrary1
10-29-09 12:11 PM
Talk about DC influence, I remember when a local man, J. Patrick Barrett, was one of the leaders of the RNC in Washington. Who did Clinton visit almost immediately after leaving office? None other than Serge Lussi, local GOP powerbroker and co-board member of ORDA with Little Dougie Hoffman. One of the great things about this area is it's remoteness, and another is the connection to Washington insiders that bring war criminals like Dick Cheney here. We're influenced by Rockefellers, Cheney's, Lussi's, and former RNC leaders, but still namage to pull off the "fight Washington" rhetoric with a straight face. 'Big Dick' Cheney and 'Little Dougie' Hoffman are probably laughing their faces off.

phahn50
10-29-09 11:31 AM
Designer - Hoffman is a pure DC candidate - supported by Club for Growth - Hes a doctrinaire conservative republican. The only real independent is Dede, although Owens is a moderate dem.

Spooner
10-29-09 11:29 AM
It's time to get the lawyers out of the business of writing the laws. It's time to move government back to the "center", away from the liberals of both parties. It's time to start paying down the national debt. I, for one, do not care to have the Federal Government turn over US land to the Chinese in order to fulfill an obligation caused by their reckless spending of money we don't have. VOTE CONSERVATIVE, Democrat OR Republican.

AdkBuddy
10-29-09 11:26 AM
Check out the Club for Growth. They don't care about anyone but themselves. They attacked Mike Huckabee when he ran for president. They deliberatley lied about Huckabee because he did what was right, not what they wanted. You can't get anymore conservative than Mike Huckabee, can you?

grizzlyadam
10-29-09 11:04 AM
Being rejected by a party IS NOT bucking a party. Besides, the conservative party has almost always ran a candidate in every congressional race.

designer5
10-29-09 11:01 AM
Grizzly, most people are really sick of the "DC influence". Those lifetime politicians are what created this mess, both parties. This is the first election of many that you will see third party candidates bucking both parties. It's the only way to rid the government of the corruption.

grizzlyadam
10-29-09 10:57 AM
Hoffman IS NOT independent! He claims he's the ONLY "real republican" in the race. And the biggest influence from DC in this race has been Club for Growth.

AdkBuddy
10-29-09 10:43 AM
That's good. Multi millionaire Doug Hoffman, the newly elected leader of the peasants. LOL

FreedomFighter
10-29-09 10:29 AM
Disgusted with Washington

Perhaps the most striking finding in the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll is the public dissatisfaction with Washington. Only 23 percent say they trust government “just about always” or “most of the time,” which is the lowest number on this question since 1997. What’s more, nearly half of respondents (46 percent) support building an independent political party to compete with the Republicans and Democrats.

Send a Message to Washington DC Send Doug Hoffman

A vote for Doug Hoffman is a direct slap in the face to the old guard party bosses in DC & Albany. Nothing says the peasants are revolting better than third party. Let the revolution start right here in the Tri-Lakes let it start on Nov 3rd. When we vote for Doug Hoffman.

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