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Appreciating water workers

April 26, 2014

Sometimes it may be hard to figure out where one’s taxes go — and then at other times, it’s obvious....

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banned2

Apr-28-14 11:36 AM

but after that then what, some people get stupid with age. gm lets people die for benefits, lipstick on pigs

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wondering

Apr-28-14 11:16 AM

Union safeguards depend on the particular contract negotiated and agreed upon with management. This includes specifics concerning tenure or continuing appointments. Many union jobs have a probationary period.

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banned2

Apr-28-14 10:40 AM

vested is the term

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banned2

Apr-28-14 10:40 AM

tenure is academic, union safeguards are instant

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banned2

Apr-27-14 11:37 AM

If you want to save, buy land , gold , ammunition , tools , politutes :)

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banned2

Apr-27-14 11:25 AM

end tenure,

no benefits until 70

all public pensions should be minimum wage @ 44 hrs + food stamps + heat ass , and a free phone.

private sector the sky is the limit,

but dmv etc should be a temporary work release job, many states they answer the phone anyway

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wondering

Apr-27-14 10:23 AM

"how can someone work for 25 years then expect to get perks for 35 more years"

I agree, except that it doesn't happen. No one retires at age 45 unless they are self-employed and do well enough to enable early retirement.

Many union jobs have a probationary period wherein they can be let go for lack of performance. The much maligned teacher unions usually require 5 years of satisfactory performance before receiving tenure. I know some will say teachers wait fro tenure and then suddenly turn lazy but I don't believe that is very often the case. the worker that under performs after 10 years was under performing their first year too. Management wants the lion's share of the pay but shirks their responsibility to effectively supervise workers.

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banned2

Apr-27-14 10:03 AM

I would be fine with unions if you could fire the bums. I ran 10 man shops for 20 years and 1 in 5 new hires needed firering.

how can someone work for 25 years then expect to get perks for 35 more years working dmv or laying sewer pipes.. 2+2=8?.

the party is coming to an end and the only way to protect you family is to get rich.

because when the country goes thru the next revolution the dollar will be renamed and all pensions in dollars will be worthless

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wondering

Apr-27-14 8:19 AM

banned, you have that exactly backwards. All, of what yiou probably call "perks", overtime pay, pension, 40 hr. work week, etc. came about because of unions. It's not a coincidence that CEO pay has soared while worker's pay has sunk during the decline of union membership. It's been an age old struggle that really started going downhill for workers (the ones that actually make the world a livable place) when the doddering fool Reagan crushed the air traffic controllers union.

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banned2

Apr-26-14 5:24 PM

poolman137 it works like this, good economy's = good services. profit then perks.... when regular workers outnumber union workers then progress happens. simple fact of life

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Hidebound

Apr-26-14 1:26 PM

I am grateful when people do the job they are paid, salary, with benefits and retirement plastic,to do. But waxing emotive over it all is a little over the top:"slaving away", "scary", and it's "absolutely terrifying", "valiant" and "ordeal"this hyped-type may be the editor's style - hyperbole.

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banned2

Apr-26-14 9:11 AM

Good luck all the grant money is going into cell phones, food stamps, undocumented illegal aliens, solyndras, mooches vacations and all other yet to be seen graft

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poolman137

Apr-26-14 8:42 AM

And this is why it is so important to fix the infrastructure in a community FIRST , so it can grow properly to support the community it holds............ There have been some projects in the last 40 years but waiting for things to get into a disrepair before replacing them , is not the way to manage it...... Taxpayers are strapped also , so it is VERY important for our community developer and board to go after infrastructure grants as much as possible......

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