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Limit guns for the mentally unstable

April 15, 2013

For a few days there was speculation Mingo County, W.Va., Sheriff Eugene Crum was murdered last week because of his crackdown on illegal drug activity....

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OmarLittle

May-28-13 9:09 PM

No, Poolman, it wouldn't. Read the federal background check law that failed. It would not have expanded the categories of mentally ill people who can't buy guns beyond those narrow groups who already aren't allowed to.

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poolman137

May-28-13 6:22 AM

and Omar- people can be deemed a danger "to themselves" and never own a gun either...... so if you have ever been depressed and had bad thoughts and told you Dr. this, you would be subject to the "LAW"

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OmarLittle

Apr-27-13 2:30 PM

No, you don't. There are only two groups of mentally unstable people who aren't allowed to buy a gun -- people who have been involuntarily committed and people who have been ruled a danger by a judge. (Like under Kendra's Law in NY.) I know plenty of people who struggle with depression or ADHD and none of them fall into either of those categories. Its tough to get involuntarily committed, even a lot of schizophrenics, people with actual delusions, wouldnt fall into that group. And the background check law that failed would not have changed or expanded on that. This fear that people who have depression might be denied the right to buy a gun is just some crap made up by the law's opponents.

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bjccd5

Apr-26-13 6:37 PM

You get tagged as being "unstable" with any MI diagnosis. That can be for numerous symtomatic conditions that most exhibit and get treatment for. Especially with the ADD or ADHD crap that far too many young people get labeled because they don't succeed in school. They would fall into the group PC is suggesting here.

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poolman137

Apr-25-13 8:20 PM

You can be classified "mentally unstable" from just being depressed! Good luck!

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OmarLittle

Apr-18-13 9:42 PM

If I had to guess, this is an Ogden editorial and not a Peter Crowley one. It's shorter than his usual style, and I can't see him writing something using a West Virginia guy as the example when there are so many nuts in New York shooting people. This is probably from Wheeling.

Regardless, we already have a mental health background check system, people who have been involuntarily committed or who have been deemed dangerous by a court can't legally buy a gun. If you buy a gun at a store, they check for this as part of the background check. That seems like a sensible law to me. The problem is that many states don't report the data in a timely manner, and you can get around it by buying a gun at a gun show or through a newspaper ad. I don't see any reason why we should allow such an obviously inconsistent and gaping loophole to stay in place. Why should you have to have a background check at Walmart but not when you buy a gun through a classified ad? It doesn't make sense.

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bjccd5

Apr-17-13 11:01 PM

Of Course, you will find a way to justify your writing. But, you are completely P-IC (politically incorrect)!!! In Theory, you are not too far off, but your editorial is terrible in regard to being intelligent.

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bjccd5

Apr-17-13 10:55 PM

I think you must re-think this editorial before you get into too much trouble. I have heard multiple people rather upset w/ the stereotype of 'mentally unstable' being targeted w/out formal diagnosis'. You (PC) need to right the ship here before legal documents are filed against you and the ADE. Again, a very poor choice for an editorial!!!

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wondering

Apr-17-13 12:25 PM

Prober, Do you ever tire of being wrong? Apparently not since you repeat the same errors ad nauseam. I didn't vote for Obama and have no more use for him than you do although for very different reasons. It's absolutely ridiculous to say that someone who has repeatedly sided with large corporations and continued virtually step for step in Bush's shoes is a socialist, much less communist. His words may seem to indicate socialist leanings but his actions speak much louder.

Cheney was and is an evil man, being out of office doesn't change that. Probably not causing as much harm now but who know since he did most of dirty deals in private and only surfaced periodically to snarl at the people he was screwing.

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ITprober

Apr-17-13 10:11 AM

It has been a whole four point 5 years since dick cheney has been in office. Can you move on wondering? You have what you wanted. You have the government you elected now, so why the sour grapes and bad blood? Is your craw so small that you cannot empty it? I have accepted that Obammy is communist, and will declare Martial Law soon, and King Andy will be the instrument to start confiscation, so bend it over like the rest of us and take it like a man. Evil are the people you helped get elected, Buddy.

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wondering

Apr-17-13 8:24 AM

Anyone who doesn't believe in the devil hasn't paid attention to Dick Cheney's career, as evil a man as ever held office in America.

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wondering

Apr-17-13 8:23 AM

Limit political office for the mentally unstable.

Obama is just another corporate tool, slicker of tongue than his predecessor but no less a tool of the 1%.

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banned2

Apr-17-13 12:18 AM

The whole idea of America was to be free.

Never let a crisis go to waste is Obamas creed.

Impeach the bum

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bjccd5

Apr-16-13 8:08 PM

and the recent terror felt in Boston makes us want to Limit Pressure Cookers from the Mentally Unstable. Back-packs and Duffle bags as well!

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bjccd5

Apr-16-13 8:06 PM

"Limit guns"???? Really PC??? and for the "Mentally Unstable"???? You are off your rocker here my friend!!! You suggest from the title to 'Limit'. Hmmm, a .22 or 30.06 is ok, but what isn't??? Further, you say 'Mentally Unstable'. Hmmmmmmmm, how do we define that?????? This is a terrible editorial, and I'm Confident you agree w/ hindsight available.

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CIB108Inf

Apr-16-13 5:01 PM

The dirtiest trick the Devil ever played was to convince the world that he didn't exist.

Born in sin come on in. Born in*****turn to dust!

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ADKGunner

Apr-16-13 4:51 PM

" What will you tell your Dr. if you feel depressed?"

You had better tell him where you keep your guns. You Dr. had better report you to the police before you hurt yourself or others.

If you Dr. fails to report you he should spend 5 years in a Federal Prison!

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ADKpaddler

Apr-16-13 3:01 PM

I find it interesting that one group wants a list of gunners and others want a list of the ill. Who's list would be a breach of our rights? What will you tell your Dr if you feel depressed?

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tladks

Apr-16-13 11:44 AM

One set of rules for the masters and another for the peasants. The government elites are guarded by phalanxes of armed bodyguards carrying thirty-round magazines in their Fully-Automatic assault rifles.

Clearly, these elites consider their own lives to be worth four times more than ours.

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banned2

Apr-16-13 10:10 AM

It's not the guns or the nuts that have them. Its the media and obamanites who seek to divide the nation and use shaming of the American public to pass draconian laws to grow the machine AKA "the man".

Prohibition only made things worse.

Read history, even audio books

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CIB108Inf

Apr-16-13 9:08 AM

New York City ranked last in terms of federal gun law enforcement in 2012, according to a new report from Syracuse University. The districts of Eastern New York ranked 88th out of 90 districts, in prosecutions of federal weapons crimes. Proof That Obama, Bloomberg and Prince Andrew only go after law abiding gun owners.

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ADKGunner

Apr-16-13 8:48 AM

Any criminal who attempts to buy a weapon and is caught by the current instant check system faces a mandatory 5 year prison term. Problem is that under Obama’s injustice Dept. there have been almost zero prosecutions of criminals who attempt to buy guns. So what good is expanding back ground checks if they refuse to enforce the laws already on the books??

Oh that’s right, to get even more records of Lawful gun owners, yes that will stop violence in America. 'Molon labe'

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banned2

Apr-16-13 8:01 AM

Give everyone a gun and a rope. Cops and lawyers are just over paid garbage collectors.

Hitler used to sterilize the nuts and mengala experiment on them

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tladks

Apr-16-13 7:05 AM

Eye witnesses stated the loud speakers were telling people in the audience to be calm moments before the bombs went off?

Is this a false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote homeland security while sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?

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tladks

Apr-16-13 5:54 AM

I wonder what constitutional rights Pete Crowley will demand we surrender after Boston??

“Any government that wants a monopoly on violence is a threat to liberty.”

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